There aren’t many tweets about the situation unfolding in Spain regarding Catalonia. So, I put up a few myself. I find the whole thing extremely worrying as it’s hard to see how there can be a peaceful resolution at this point.
Personally, I oppose the calls for independence. However, the extreme heavy-handedness of the central government in Spain is appalling. Any government that perpetrates violence against its citizens loses in the credibility stakes.
I think the main reason there’s currently a call for secession is money. Spain was hit really had by the GFC in 2008 and is slow to recover. Some regions still have high levels of unemployment. Catalonia, however, is currently doing pretty well. The Catalans feel that they are not getting a lot back for the share of the taxes they pay. However, those in the region still enjoy a much better standard of living than others in Spain because of their better economy.
Some politicians have created bitterness and resentment in the population. They have played on old grievances from the time of the Franco regime. It’s the sort of populism we’re seeing in several places around the world. And depending on the underlying issues in a society, it’s working to a greater or lesser extent.
It’s a complex situation, so I thought I’d post a couple of tweets that try to explain the issues. Here they are:
Arguments for and against Catalan independence, Catalonian referendum https://t.co/QLhPHBSSCo via @YouTube
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Catalonia declares independence from Spain https://t.co/4FNBJ1DWTL via @YouTube
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Political Tweets
The situation in the US isn’t much better. There are even analysts predicting civil war in that country. I don’t think it will come to that, but something sure needs to be done to heal the divides there. Here’s some analysis by the Washington Post.
Analysis | ‘It’s just messed up’: Most think political divisions as bad as Vietnam era, new poll shows https://t.co/nzluOOsIbP
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Well said Tom Toles (cartoonist).
(Via Ann German.)
Tom Toles, not holding back. pic.twitter.com/41azP1ZvZl
— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) October 27, 2017
And well said Ms Yates!
(Via Ann German.)
We can’t let POTUS’s complete indifference to truth become ours. Constant barrage may be exhausting, but normalizing it is too dangerous.
— Sally Yates (@Sally Q Yates) October 24, 2017
This is a fantastic initiative. In the Christchurch earthquake in New Zealand, around half (I think) of the deaths were in one building which wasn’t properly designed. The architect skipped the country to escape prosecution. White collar criminals do far more damage than other criminals when you think of the number of lives they affect, but they often don’t face the consequences of their actions.
This group of cartoonists is using Mexico City’s earthquake rubble to shine a light on corruption. pic.twitter.com/rzl6UsRdEu
— AJ+ (@ajplus) October 29, 2017
Mueller Time Tweets
Wait for it: Monday US time.
(Via Ann German.)
Now you know why the horseshit uranium story was getting pushed so hard https://t.co/WpFuIopvcn
— Rick Wilson (@The Rick Wilson) October 28, 2017
Roger Stone isn’t happy …
I guess they should’ve included a trigger warning in the report on Mueller’s first indictments … pic.twitter.com/sfv0wSU24y
— Caroline O. (@RVA wonk) October 28, 2017
And Twitter isn’t happy with him as a result.
Sources tell me Roger Stone’s suspension from Twitter is permanent. He spent last night attacking CNN reporters. pic.twitter.com/qPdKNQzpBR
— David Mack (@david mackau) October 28, 2017
I’m picking that the first person to be indicted by the Mueller investigation will be Paul Manafort.
(Via Ann German.)
Manafort, Roger Stone, Sebastian Gorka, trump Jr., Jared & Ivanka, everytime they hear the doorbell ring this weekend…LoL pic.twitter.com/yjdmnjreje
— シャロン Ishimaru Kaito (@Trgdy Ann) October 28, 2017
This is brilliant!!!
Thought in light of todays news this would be very fitting.
This is amazing. #MuellerTime #Comeyday pic.twitter.com/67x9M76bUG— AgentHades (@Agent Hades) October 28, 2017
I really can’t believe that the GOP is trying to make something out of the Uranium One story! There’s nothing there! Clinton had nothing to do with it! Even if she had, she couldn’t make the decision on her own. The State Department was one of nine agencies to give their approval to the deal.
(Via Ann German.)
These @seanhannity tweets telegraph the strategy of obfuscation, distraction & lies that pro-Trump media will employ as Mueller advances: pic.twitter.com/xgZHgjWccS
— Greg Sargent (@The Plum Line GS) October 28, 2017
Now that’s a response!
It was Clintonses who COLLRUDED! Not us! No, not us precious! Hurry Whannity, tweets us REAL NEWS! Hillbo dids it! SHE is wicked- and FALSE! pic.twitter.com/4X5OUqlKIj
— Gollum J. Trump (@real Gollum Trump) October 28, 2017
Comedy Tweets
The man is a complete buffoon. It amazes me that there are people out there who take him seriously. Even worse, that one of them is the president of the most powerful country in the world.
FFS! ????Alex Jones Claims He Talked ‘Extensively’ With White House Source About JFK File Release | Right Wing Watch https://t.co/oEzFXOM3iN
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Religion Tweets
Speaking of buffoons …
Phil Robertson Responds To Weinstein Allegations By Saying AIDS Is God’s Judgment For ‘Perversion’ https://t.co/F3ed6SYlpJ
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Human Rights Tweets
This is a fantastic initiative. It would be great if there were more like this.
(Via “Archie Debunker”.)
THIS IS AMAZING. We need this everywhere, all around the world. pic.twitter.com/KZDV2ABijs
— Alexis Isabel (@lexi 4 prez) October 26, 2017
The US is going backwards when it comes to human rights thanks to Trump and his cronies in the GOP.
Because every back-alley abortion will help make America great again. https://t.co/jzCY8XI9Om
— David Simon (@A o Despair) October 27, 2017
This should not happen in a modern democracy where rule of law reigns supreme.
This is what authoritarianism looks like pic.twitter.com/AsUdxuYOo1
— NowThis (@now this news) October 28, 2017
Art Tweets
Very cool!
Nice stone painting by Benjana Usic (Benji Art & Design) pic.twitter.com/Zfw5Zo25um
— Cool Hunter (@cool hunter 8040) October 29, 2017
Architecture Tweets
Beautiful!
Dragon doors pic.twitter.com/O9uk56d1zd
— Architecture (@arch pics) October 29, 2017
Wow! Isn’t it stunning?!
Ceiling Cardiff Castle pic.twitter.com/UsTUmC6rtI
— Architecture (@arch pics) October 28, 2017
Science Tweets
Another part in the series about ISOLDE at CERN.
Meet ISOLDE: A high energy upgrade
with @CERN#MeetISOLDE #Science #Physics
–
Link: https://t.co/OZnwPzFrC2
–https://t.co/XyBE0OnIo0— Amy Carparelli (@Amy Amy lou 1993) October 27, 2017
This TED talk is about 16 minutes long, but it’s not bad if you have the time.
‘We need to talk about Physics’:
with @helenczerski #Saturday_Night_Science #Science
–https://t.co/NbTjCg1ru4— Amy Carparelli (@Amy Amy lou 1993) October 28, 2017
Space Tweets
Beautiful!
Breathtaking – Pluto’s Blue Sky pic.twitter.com/q1L1h8jfHp
— World and Science (@World And Science) October 29, 2017
Entertainment Tweets
The next sex scandal to hit Hollywood, and you can bet it extends beyond there.
Corey Feldman plans to expose a Hollywood pedophilia ring pic.twitter.com/5t5hxKeAaD
— NowThis (@now this news) October 28, 2017
Sorry, but this is just fu€king ridiculous! I know there’s still a lot of racism in the US, but the idea that people are only taking notice of Harvey Weinstein because his victims are white is stupid. Hello! Anybody heard of Bill Cosby? Most of his victims were women of colour. Intersectional feminists give the rest of us a bad name.
Women of color are being left out of sexual assault conversations in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal pic.twitter.com/8H5sQDeJDj
— NowThis (@now this news) October 28, 2017
He still looks like a boy! Must be an alien!
Leonardo Dicaprio and Kate Winslet, then and now. pic.twitter.com/XdCPFDMSNL
— Mood:Vintage (@mood vintage) October 29, 2017
For your entertainment!
Raking Leaves pic.twitter.com/yCgTEICIKC
— Cool Hunter (@cool hunter 8040) October 28, 2017
What would you do?
Amazon accidentally shipped this couple over 60 pounds of weed ???? pic.twitter.com/b9MBALBpeK
— NowThis (@now this news) October 29, 2017
History Tweets
The terracotta warriors are amazing – each one has a different face. It’s amazing what wastage belief in an afterlife leads to. Still, I’m glad we get to see these sculptures.
Terracotta Warriors, China pic.twitter.com/CoZhzaZBLN
— Architecture (@arch pics) October 29, 2017
Marine Tweets
Many of you will have seen the first of these three clips from Blue Planet II, which will be on our screens in NZ starting in late November. They’re all great though. I can’t wait for the series!
Bird Vs Fish – Blue Planet II https://t.co/uRsdwaMoBi via @YouTube
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Feeding Humphead Parrotfish – Blue Planet – BBC Earth https://t.co/d36r3hXQKr via @YouTube
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Filming Walrus With The Megadome – Blue Planet II – Behind The Scenes https://t.co/IGYRp5Lgi4 via @YouTube
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 28, 2017
Other Animals Tweets
What a great woman! Look at her stroking that hedgehog in her lap as if it’s a cat. ???? The world needs more people like Joan Lockley!
West Midlands Hedgehog Rescue
with @wmHogletHero – Happy Birthday to Joan Lockley #Nature #RatedAwww
–https://t.co/7SubXQyfIl— Amy Carparelli (@Amy Amy lou 1993) October 27, 2017
Great video of a water vole in its natural habitat.
Water Voles having fun in the sun:
with @GwentWildlife
Votes needed UK only:
Vote: https://t.co/BbessfB8yL
–https://t.co/rjXB4Fq5Nw— Amy Carparelli (@Amy Amy lou 1993) October 27, 2017
Okay, I admit it, kids are cute!
The kids are alright. pic.twitter.com/fsIv7cNIUs
— Dick King-Smith HQ (@Dick King Smith) October 28, 2017
Dog Tweets
This is for my sister Brenda. ❤️
“He just found out that he is, in fact, a good boy” pic.twitter.com/yCTcW2MEQh
— Fluff Society (@Fluff Society) October 29, 2017
It’s got the moves, though the style needs perfecting!
Digging for the first time pic.twitter.com/VoYumJOx4J
— Life on Earth (@planet epics) October 29, 2017
I hope none of them get motion sickness!
… I just couldn’t pick one. pic.twitter.com/u0KISZXLS4
— Cute Baby Animals (@Cute Baby Animals) October 29, 2017
Puppies can be almost as cute as kittens!
“I think he just discovered his toes” pic.twitter.com/Y6N9UQX1PN
— Life on Earth (@planet epics) October 28, 2017
Cat Tweets
It doesn’t get any better than this! What a wonderful video!
(Via Ann German.)
Endangered baby snow leopard born at the Bronx Zoo makes its public debut. https://t.co/1VHArmmpjH pic.twitter.com/uAjQjRRZA1
— ABC News (@ABC) October 27, 2017
Here’s a longer video of the snow leopard cub with its mum. You can read more about it here.
Snow Leopard Cub on Exhibit | Bronx Zoo https://t.co/dL8BrS07cN via @YouTube
— Heather’s Homilies (@Heather Hastie) October 29, 2017
This video is from Facebook rather than Twitter. It’s my cousin Tristanne’s cat, Ngeru, which is Maori for cat. (Pronounced, roughly, near-roo.) The video is actually to show us the great view and peaceful location. So the cat, realizing it’s not the star of the show, takes off part way through!
We used to have a cat that rode on the dashboard, but I’ve never seen this!
The right way to make the trip to the vet? pic.twitter.com/69s0WiyYHj
— Cats and Kittens (@cats n kittys) October 29, 2017
Lovely!
Haai pic.twitter.com/Oiw1at4uzT
— DailyDose Of Kittens (@The DaiIy Kitten) October 29, 2017
Awwww!
when you get a surprise kiss pic.twitter.com/fAVHqDLFp0
— Emergency Kittens (@Emrgency Kittens) October 28, 2017
More cat kisses!
Awww, kitty kisses… pic.twitter.com/J0hlTfn4U1
— Cats and Kittens (@cats n kittys) October 28, 2017
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There are two recent models for break-ups in Europe. The first is the “velvet” revolution that led to the break up of Czechoslovakia. I cannot remember if anyone was killed; if so it must have been few. The other model is the breakup of Yugoslavia. Enough said on that. Maybe a third is the break up of the Soviet Union in which some countries were able to break away relatively peaceably but in the case of others there has been a huge conflict (e.g., Chechnya). So which way can Spain go?
I don’t know enough to predict, but I hope they can find a way to resolve the situation peacefully. I do know this sort of thing can’t keep happening. It’s only 150 years since Germany was over 200 separate states, kingdoms etc. Italy was around a dozen. Go a bit further back and France and Spain were both multiple duchies and kingdoms. There are several other examples of course.
The “Mueller Time” video made my heart happy. At least momentarily.
“This should not happen in a modern democracy where rule of law reigns supreme.”
I thought that caption was going to be about the Clintons’ sleazy careers and their inexplicable ability to repeatedly elude justice.
No doubt you did, but you’re a moron.
🙂
Yeah? Well at least I don’t have cooties. So there.
Why such different attitude? Catalans are ancient people with distinct language and culture which for centuries was occupied by Spain. In the current autonomy they governed themselves well, and the demand for independence has very old roots. But you don’t think they should have an independent state.
Palestinian is a nation created in 1960. They have common culture, language and religion with other Arab nations. Under Ottoman Empire they thought about themselves as a part of Syria, After Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria (which they renamed West Bank) Palestinian (PLO) renounced all claims to Jordanian held territories and wanted only the rest of Israel for themselves. Their Palestinian Authority (not to mention Gaza Strip) is dysfunctional, violent, corrupt ans as ill-suited for statehood as any entity can be. But so many people are for a Palestinian State and against Catalonian State. So I’m asking why this difference?
I started writing a long answer to this, but I deleted it. The two situations are not the same and cannot be compared. For a start, other Spaniards are not being routinely murdered by Catalonians just because they’re Spanish. The poison of religion, specifically hatred of Jews by Muslims, isn’t part of the problem either. (They’re mostly Catholic on both sides in Spain of course.) This is not the time to go into a long discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is completely different and deserves to be dealt with on its own merits.
Para 4: “…Castro regime”?!
Heather meant the Franco regime, no doubt
Yes, I did.
Ha ha! Yes, I’ll fix that!
‘Nother example of a USian a$$hole cop:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/27/1710299/-Oklahoma-City-police-officer-handcuffs-woman-for-riding-a-bike-and-handing-him-her-ID?detail=emaildkre
That is appalling! So wrong on several levels. For a start, what is illegal about cycling around looking at people’s gardens? Suspicious, perhaps, but not illegal. Then arresting her for handing over her i/d in a threatening manner! Reminds me of constable Savage.
On Corey Feldman’s plans concerning Hollywood pedophiles, Barbara Walters shut him down with the menacing remark:
—“You’re damaging an entire industry—”
??? I think that is not precisely an attitude she was a well-known journalist for.
No, and I wonder what she knows? That’s the same reason that’s been given for years re not dealing with the abuse of women. Surely it’s more important to stop the abuse of children!
In warning them, Feldman is actually giving them a chance to deal with the paedophiles and separate them from the business before the $hit hits the fan.
BBC Earth (Blue Planet II). What a fascinating video showing a fish capturing a flying bird!
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The Mueller time video was terrific. As to Catalonia, people who live in California and NY can probably identify with them. We supply the Federal government with more money than we get back and now our views on what the government should accomplish seem to be in limbo.
Not to mention that those two states are also woefully underrepresented in a “representational democracy”. States with the least population have the most power. Why should a state with 586,000 people (Wyoming) have as much sway in congress as a state with 38 million (California)? There are also a few red states like Texas that are also woefully underrepresented. Republicans don’t mind this though because they know they are in the minority and the only way to win is by out and out cheating, and by making sure the status quo of this rigged system doesn’t change.
Because of the unfair system those who want to make it fair can’t get the votes to change it. We changed our unfair system in NZ in the 1990s, but it took several years and being so much smaller makes it easier. It’s more like doing it at a state level for you guys.
I think secessionist movements in the US are probably a slightly closer analogy to Spain than many others. There is a separate Catalan language, but most speak Spanish too.
If I was sent that much weed, I’d smoke it. Actually 60 lbs. is a little crazy. I’d give a lot of it to friends. The last thing I’d do is call the cops. Why do that? People are so weird about marijuana in a country that has legal alcohol and tobacco- 2 drugs that are far more harmful to society than pot. These pot-phobes (like Jeff Sessions) need to come to a state where it’s legal and see that there is nothing to fear. The stores are bright and clean, the customers are friendly and the employees are knowledgeable and professional; it works like any other well-regulated consumer good. Plus it brings in loads of taxes and new jobs, allows the prisons to free thousands of citizens and allows law enforcement officers to spend their efforts on criminal activities that actually cause harm to society. At least the states can override the irrationality of the feds, especially when the federal government is run by the cronies and crackpots that currently hold the majority.
And just think if god did exist you’d have the possibility of being stuck with the likes of Phil Robertson for eternity. Talk about hell!
Judging by a lot of the people damned to hell, it will be a much nicer place than heaven. Imagine spending eternity with the kind of sanctimonious prigs who take pleasure in the idea of someone suffering for ETERNITY, and think Trump Pence is the ideal ticket.
Yeah, as I’ve said to the missionaries who hassle me, “I don’t want to spend the next five minutes with you; why would I want to spend eternity with you?”
L
On a lighter note — as for the humphead parrot fish, I can only exclaim with Little Red Riding Hood: “But Grandmother! What big teeth you have!” They’re in need of a good orthodontist.
They’re amazing aren’t they?!
Just keep following the money…
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/
Let’s suppose that in your perfect world, Hillary Clinton is investigated, found guilty, and jailed for life.
Does that absolve all Republicans of any and every law that they may have broken, henceforth and forevermore? Or, does that mean that Republicans who are convicted fair and square should have to face the same penalties?
I am sick to death of the “logic” that just because someone you don’t like may have done something wrong, that means that everyone you DO like is innocent of everything.
Some of your tribe are going down, not because of Hillary Clinton, but because of their own behavior.
L
Very well said!
It goes without saying that laws must be applied without fear or favor. Among other things, that means I want the Clintons to be held accountable for once. I can’t imagine I’ve ever posted anything here that could fairly be construed otherwise.
Meanwhile, though, it is Clinton and her band of deranged dead-enders who furiously traffic in scurrilous innuendo, while hoping for the worst. It will be a case of delicious irony if the whole Russia farce blows back on the Clintons and Obama.
If Clinton is the precise horror of all your paranoid horrors, is that enough? What does it take for you…? You’ve written ‘you need help’ as a lot of “burns”. I think you are older than 12…maybe 22? dunno. I’m surprised you don’t reflect on your own weird Clinton fetish. Take a step back bro.
I don’t suppose that it has crossed your mind that the reason Hillary Clinton has never been charged with a crime is that she hasn’t done anything illegal and all the charges against her are just political innuendo?
The Russia Uranium One thing is the biggest pile of crap in existence. The State Department was one of NINE departments that had to approve the deal, the discussions began before she was Sec of State, she didn’t sit on the nine member board and wasn’t involved in the decision. Further, two of the other board members were the Sec of Defense and Homeland Security. They approved it too. There is no export licence for the Uranium. It cannot leave the US. It is being used for nuclear power. I can’t believe this is even being discussed as a problem!
Thanks for spelling out the truth there, Heather. The only “fake news” is the crap j.a.m. listens to.
You mean, have I heard about the vast right-wing conspiracy that’s been persecuting the poor saintly Clintons for decades? Tricking the helpless naifs into one incriminating situation after another, after another?
Bill’s criminality is not disputed. Hillary is more of a white collar criminal, and as someone noted recently, they often don’t face the consequences of their actions. Sometimes they manage to skate right up to the edge of the letter of the law. When they cross the line, cover-ups and stonewalling and counter-allegations work, and at that the Clintons are in a league of their own.
Is it conceivable that Hillary is beyond the reach of the law? Clearly she has been to date. That’s a long way from innocent.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-releases-office-of-independent-counsel-oic-memoranda-laying-out-criminal-case-against-hillary-clinton-in-whitewatercastle-grande-land-scandal/
I think the independence movement in Catalonia has much deeper roots. Historically, it was closer to the Occitan-speaking area of southern France that to Spain. Catalan is more a dialect of Occitan than of Spanish. Catalonia had been a strongly Republican region in the Spanish civil war. During the fascist era under Franco, Catalan was banned in an attempt to suppress Catalonia culture and forcibly merge it into Spain. To many Catalans, it was more like living as second-class citizens in a conquered territory and this naturally fuelled the independence movement. Spain is now reaping the harvest sown by the Francoist fascist nationalists.
All that is true. It seems to me that they’re not treated like second-class citizens anymore and that the treatment meted out to them previously is being used to work people up. Of course, never having been there and not speaking the language it’s hard for me to judge how accurate my perception is.
The Franco dictatorship ended in 1975, that is 42 years ago. Now I do not know the profile of Catalonia’s population pyramid, but it is safe to assume that a majority of Catalans have no living recollection of that era. So yes,I agree that money probably is the main motive.
Catalan is indeed more like Occitan then Spanish, like Occitan is more like Catalan then French.
I’m neutral on the question of secession, but it has been handeled very badly, from both sides. A farcical ‘vote’ and a ridiculously heavy-handed reaction.
What about an Occitan Republic comprising Catalonia and l’Occitanie? (former Languedoc-Roussillion and Midi-Pyrenees).
[Of course they will fight about where the capital should be, Barcelona, Toulouse or even Montpellier ????]. Would not be a bad idea.
more than (either I spelled it wrong or -I hope, but doubt- spellchecker is to blame).