Treating Women as Equals – Why is it So Difficult? (plus Tweets)

by | Feb 8, 2018 | Tweets, Women | 61 comments

Once again, I can’t remember what I was going to write about for today’s tweets post. That’s because it all went out the window, or rather out of my mind, when I saw something else.

As is my usual morning habit before I get out of bed, I was reading the Why Evolution is True website. Today’s first post (at the link) includes a tweet from the British TV channel BBC Two.

Now I thought the tweet was absolutely fantastic. I note that a lot of (especially men) didn’t think it was funny. Whether it tickles your funny bone or not, it does describe exactly what it’s like to be a woman these days. Here ‘t’is:

 

As I said, I thought that was great. Not all women felt that way apparently. It got this response from someone called Sandra Grant:

Too bad she had to use vulgar language to make her point. Still turns a lot of people – both men and women – off.

For goodness sake! This is just the sort of thing the tweet was referring too. Women get judged if they use “vulgar” language! What they say doesn’t count if they use “vulgar” language.

Here’s the tweet, and a pretty cool response!

When I started using Twitter in 2011, I also started using a lot more “vulgar” language. Before that it was pretty rare that I swore, and I still do not blaspheme. But not long after establishing a presence online I was saying “fuck” a lot. Deliberately. The reason was all the religious extremists who told me women shouldn’t say “fuck”. Depending on the circumstances of course, telling me not to do something is a pretty good way to make me do it. That goes double if the reason I shouldn’t do it is because I’m a woman.

(As an aside, I can’t help wondering if that was Joe Biden’s tactic in his CNN interview with Chris Cuomo yesterday. Joe Biden says Trump shouldn’t speak to Mueller. Trump’s reasoning will be that a Democrat thinks he shouldn’t, so Trump will do it. And his own statements will convict him of, at least, perjury.)

People in general – not just men – respond to women in a different way than they do to men. I’m not talking about situations where that’s appropriate. Men and women are different, despite what some modern intersectionalists will try to tell you. We are a product of evolution.

However, there are cultural things where there is a different response and there shouldn’t be. It’s often completely unconscious, and even the most equality-minded feminists (men and women) are guilty of it.

When you talk about going to the doctor, most people still assume the doctor is a man. A nurse though, is assumed to be a woman. There are many professions where the assumption is that they’re men’s jobs, and that stops girls going for them, even if they want to.

There’s a thing amongst certain men that women (and people of colour in some countries) are taking control. I’ve heard that specifically from men’s rights activists in the US – a country that’s never even had a woman president and is 96th in the world when it comes to political equality in the 2017 Global Gender Gap report.

(The US is 49th overall, New Zealand is 9th. See page 8 of the report for other countries. If you can’t access the report, ask me for your country’s result in the comments, or email me.)

And we’re not helped when Doritos announce they’re introducing a corn chip especially for ladies. Not women mind you. Ladies. Now the chips themselves are not a bad idea. It’s directing the marketing at “ladies” that’s the problem.

Here are some responses:

 

 

 

 

 

They tried to save themselves:

 

But it was too late:

 

This further attempt at mollifying the left is laughable. Make them rainbow coloured! How can they complain about that?! We love LGBTQ people, so we must be good! FFS!

 

It’s quite a long time now since Hillary Clinton said this (almost 23 years), but it’s as true as ever:

“Human rights are women’s rights, and women’s rights are human rights.”

How about just thinking of women as people and not a separate species?

And how many men could do what House minority leader Nancy Pelosi did today in support of a group that Trump and the GOP has betrayed? This is the first tweet in a thread about her achievement:
(Via Ann German.)

77 year-old Nancy Pelosi stood in heels and spoke for more than seven hours in support of the Dreamers. No water, no toilet break. (Women are allowed to say toilet in New Zealand – maybe that’s why we’re 40 places higher than the US in the Global Gender Gap report). The House Historian has apparently confirmed that this is the longest speech on the floor of the House since at least 1909. Go to the full thread if you can and read about her achievement.

 

 

(I apologize in advance if you don’t find today’s tweets very enjoyable. There aren’t many animals because I ran out of time and I also went on a bit of an ego trip i.e. there are a lot of my own tweets.)

 

Political Tweets

Wow! Look who sent this tweet!
(Via Ann German.)

Some of mine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Economics Tweets

There’s an old Trump tweet for every occasion! And btw, how can someone who’s supposedly such a brilliant businessman not know that it’s “Jones”.
(Via Ann German.)

 

Addendum: The Next Day

It turns out the tweet above is Fake News. Here is a tweet that includes a link to a Politifact article that rates it, “Pants on Fire.”

More of mine …

 

 

 

Mueller Time Tweets

I’m still at it.

 

 

 

Human Rights Tweets

I’m still going!

 

What a cool initiative!
(Via Ann German.)

 

#NoMore Tweets

Another abusive man in the Trump White House “resigns”. Why does everyone who abuses women have to resign except Trump? Why is he allowed to ignore allegations that he harasses, abuses, beats, and rapes women? That he has committed adultery dozens of times? He’s on video speaking dismissively about women (“grab ’em by the pussy”)! It should not be one rule for him and another for everyone else. He is not a king.
(Via Ann German.)

 

This is the John Kelly quote Ted Lieu is referring to:

 

And this is the story about Rob Porter in the Daily Mail:

 

This is the “Full story to come in the morning.”

 

Gun Safety Tweets

One more …

 

Media Tweets

This is a laugh!
(Via Ann German.)

 

This is the tweet Ana Navarro linked to:

 

Entertainment Tweets

SFX in 1902!
(Via Ann German.)

 

Perry Barlow, US Poet and Activist.
(Via Ann German.)

 

Science Tweets

Very cool!

 

Sports Tweets

Very cool! They are men of principle (despite the appalling behaviour of some of their fans).
(Via Ann German.)

 

Jackie Robinson didn’t stand for the National Anthem either.
(Via Ann German.)

Funny Tweets

What was that again? Brilliant!
(Via Ann German.)

 

I can’t think of Trump’s desire for a military parade as anything more than a joke.
(Via Ann German.)

 

Creepy-Crawlies Tweets

Trigger Alert: Spider

Look at those eyes!
(Via Ann German.)

 

Other Animals Tweets

The perils of living in Iceland …
(Via Ann German.)

 

Another cool elephant story!

 

Cat Tweets

Amazing cat!

 

What a cool dog!

 

Remember this?
(Via Ann German.)

 

I’ve never heard of this!
(Via Ann German.)

 

The Good, the Bad, and the … KITTEH!
(Via Ann German.)

 

It looks so woebegone!

Awwww. Goodnight!

 

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61 Comments

  1. Ann German
    Ann German on 8th February 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Great and fun read!!! The “woman thing” is a direct result of the US being invaded by those Puritanical prudes . . . and other assorted religious nuts. Religious zealots thrive on women’s oppression.

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    • nicky
      nicky on 9th February 2018 at 5:10 am

      Although religious nuts certainly play a vile role here, I’m not so sure it is only that.
      The thing that one would automatically assume ‘the doctor’ is male is a good example. Well, not so good anymore, since I think there are nearly as much female as male doctors now, but you get the point.
      A fun presentation though, greatly enjoyed it. Of course, in order to keep it ‘civil’, ‘copulation’, instead of ‘fuck’, could be used. “Copulate you!”, and “Copulate it!”, maybe less concise, but it has kind of a ring to it. 🙂
      Small detail though, do not think that males are not told where, when or what they are allowed to do with their penises, vaginas are not really unique there (I admit there is not a real equivalence, penis-bearers are rarely ‘slut-shamed’, but still)

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      • Heather Hastie
        Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 6:35 am

        The sort of thing men are told what to do with their penises though is stuff like ” don’t get them out in public.” It’s much more extreme for women. In most societies, there’s no purity culture in relation to men, but they still exist for women to the extent that some women are still killed for violating purity cultures.

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    • Heather Hastie
      Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 5:55 am

      It always amazes me that so many in the US frame the Puritans as looking for “religious freedom.” What they wanted was to be able to force everyone to live like them. Not much different from the Christian extremist view of religious freedom today really.

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      • Linda Calhoun
        Linda Calhoun on 10th February 2018 at 3:47 am

        They WERE looking for religious freedom.

        But, they, like most biblebangers, couldn’t pass up the opportunity to dish it out once they got out from under someone else.

        The ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes and see things from another viewpoint is stunted in religious fanatics. If you’re RIGHT, and if you HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, what’s the point? You’d only be looking at things from the WRONG viewpoint.

        I will take Christianity seriously when 95% of all Christians everywhere agree with EACH OTHER about what “the truth” is. As long as it’s one opinion per person/denomination/sect, they’re making it all up as they go along.

        And, their ability to arrive at some compromise, not only on religious dogma, but on pretty much everything, is also compromised, as evidenced by how many denominations/sects there are. They can’t solve anything, they just split off into another group.

        Pathetic.

        L

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        • j.a.m.
          j.a.m. on 10th February 2018 at 11:03 am

          As compared to what?

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          • Linda Calhoun
            Linda Calhoun on 10th February 2018 at 11:19 am

            I don’t understand your question.

            L

          • j.a.m.
            j.a.m. on 10th February 2018 at 12:11 pm

            @LC: You were criticizing the diversity of viewpoints and factions within the Christian movement. I’m just wondering what you’re comparing it to — i.e., over the last twenty centuries of human history, which global movements or institutions would you point to as better examples?

          • Linda Calhoun
            Linda Calhoun on 10th February 2018 at 12:42 pm

            @j.a.m.

            I’m not comparing the “diversity of views” to anything. Christians all allege that they have THE TRUTH. Obviously, if THE TRUTH differs from person to person, sometimes wildly, at least one of them is wrong.

            The Catholics say that they are the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Protestants say that Catholics are “not really Christians”. Yada, yada, yada.
            They’re all consumed by how right they are and how wrong everybody else is. Is real baptism sprinkling water on the forehead, or do you have to do the full dunk for it to count? If you’re one of those sects that cross yourselves, is it left-to-right, or right-to-left? The Catholics decided recently that Limbo wasn’t real. So now do unbaptized babies go straight to hell? Yada, yada, yada.

            You can’t all be right simultaneously. My view is that you’re all full of shit. Not a single one of you has any basis for your beliefs other than your overheated imaginations.

            L

          • j.a.m.
            j.a.m. on 10th February 2018 at 1:27 pm

            There are people of all persuasions, religious and otherwise, who are certain they’re right. No news there. From my personal observation (obviously not yours), the people who are most inclined to seek the truth with a sincere heart and open mind are likely to follow a faith tradition.

  2. rickflick
    rickflick on 8th February 2018 at 4:14 pm

    The key to gender, I think, is that all people have the right to do as they please. They have the right to pursue whatever career or activity they want. They should have equal access to all that society has to offer. Women, minorities, young and old, should be treated equally. Why not?
    However, men and women, on average, are, in many ways different. So, you should not expect outcomes to be the same. There are many feminine traits that make most women good at some jobs and not so great as men at others, and vice versa. This is not a problem as far as I can see, as long as all women are given a fair opportunity. An example I heard recently was that in Norway, which probably has the strongest gender equality culture of any country, women represent the overwhelming majority of nurses and a scant minority of firefighters. This is not a problem, as long as they allow everyone to chose freely.
    However, some seem to perceive any difference in outcomes as a condemnation of a culture which is male dominated and totally unfair. So, there should be just as many female firefighters as male, and there should be as many male elementary school teachers as female. Some of the diffidence could be cultural bias, but some of it is inherent in our genetic proclivities.

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    • Heather Hastie
      Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 6:10 am

      I agree. I was going to make that point when I was talking about doctors, but went off on another tangent. For some time in NZ women have been the majority of medical school graduates. It seems when women get to do what they want that natural caring side that in the past meant they became nurses has meant they’re the majority of doctors now too.

      (Women in NZ have been, on average, better educated than men for over 100 years. Today, for every one man with a degree, 1.41 women have a degree. But we still have a gender pay gap.)

      Women have made up the majority of law graduates for a while, and I think it’s arguable that’s a profession that women are, on average, likely to be naturally better than men at. No one would ever think men shouldn’t pursue a career in law though. But people still think women shouldn’t do certain jobs (iincluding lawyer in some extreme cases).

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  3. j.a.m.
    j.a.m. on 8th February 2018 at 4:56 pm

    The latest bombshell (the President’s accurate description) is the interim report from the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee showing (at least according to the Trump-deranged FBI lovebirds Strzok and Page) that Obama had demanded to “know everything” about the Clinton investigation. (So what did Obama know, and when did he know it?) The report also reveals that the FBI found out about Weiner’s laptop a full month before Comey informed Congress.

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/library

    “What Republicans are condemning is the FBI leadership’s conduct in the Trump campaign and Clinton email probes. For example, in the case of the much-discussed House Intelligence Committee memo released last week, Republicans accurately portrayed an FBI leadership that made common cause with an opposition research project paid for by the Clinton campaign right in the middle of a 2016 presidential election — and then ferociously resisted congressional oversight.” — Byron York

    As I say, I’m old enough to remember when the lamestream media actually claimed to be against domestic surveillance, secret proceedings, and abusive, politically-influenced law enforcement. Those were the days!

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      • Heather Hastie
        Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 6:26 am

        Because the US really needs to prove it’s military superiority. This is all about Trump’s pathetic insecurities. Everyone ii complaining about how the military is struggling financially, about the waste of self promotion etc. They’re even getting rid of military bands because they cost too much. And Trump thinks spending tens of millions on a parade is a good idea. FFS. At least there’ll be something tangible to show for the wall.

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          • Heather Hastie
            Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 2:29 pm

            I’m not going to go to the link because I don’t have time, but if Schumer was calling for a military parade, he’s wrong too. I don’t think this is wrong just because it’s Trump’s idea.

    • Heather Hastie
      Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 6:19 am

      Another banned phrase because it grates on me: lamestream media. You’re two for teo.

      That’s out of context. Obama was about to meet with Putin and he was planning to (and did) upbraid him for interfering in the elections. He needed to know everything that was happening.

      I may still get around to writing about Memogate, and I have screeds of notes. In my assessment, like the Uranium One “scandal,” none of the Republican attacks stands up to scrutiny.

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      • j.a.m.
        j.a.m. on 9th February 2018 at 9:00 am

        Ah, right. And Clinton and Lynch met on a tarmac to chat about grandkids.

        I was going to say the same thing — i.e., none of the spurious sore loser attacks upon our President bear much scrutiny. So much hateful bloviating punctuated by wildly unhinged speculation!

        Another euphemism already, really? How would you have us refer to the lying liberal purveyors of fake news?

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        • Heather Hastie
          Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 12:31 pm

          We don’t have the term in New Zealand. It’s something I only hear on Fox News about media that they consider fair when it supports their pov, and unfair when it doesn’t. I think it’s pathetic. As if Fox News is a victim that has trouble getting it’s message out! They’re extremely successful and popular.

          And I’ve said multiple times that I don’t think Trump himself is guilty of collusion. I do think he knew the Russians wanted him to win and didn’t think that needed to to reported to the FBI. I think others on his campaign may have colluded. Specifically, I think they were there to feed information to the Russians to aid their collusion.

          I think what Trump is worried about with this investigation is the FBI finding dodgy business deals.

          Further. ever since the investigation started he has been working to undermine the DOJ and FBI, and the media who will report their findings. He knows how to manipulate the public so a chunk will either not believe the truth, or will think it’s no big deal, or will agree with Trump that the rules that apply to everyone else shouldn’t apply to him.

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  4. Yakaru
    Yakaru on 8th February 2018 at 11:22 pm

    I do remember the cat that ate the city (until the city was saved by a giant disembodied hand, albeit with tragic consequences). When I was in fourth grade my “show and tell” was always what happened on Monty Python the night before. All I remember is the faces of small children either laughing themselves silly or looking baffled.

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  5. Mike Deschane
    Mike Deschane on 8th February 2018 at 11:48 pm

    “When I started using Twitter in 2011, I also started using a lot more “vulgar” language. Before that it was pretty rare that I swore, and I still do not blaspheme“

    How does an atheist blaspheme?

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    • j.a.m.
      j.a.m. on 10th February 2018 at 7:05 am

      Atheism IS blasphemy.

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      • Mark R.
        Mark R. on 10th February 2018 at 7:52 am

        And you’re a petulant, intolerant troll; so what? Neither matters in the grand scheme of things, least of all you.

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      • Jenny Haniver
        Jenny Haniver on 10th February 2018 at 8:19 am

        Can your God kiss my ass? If so, I invite him to do so. Maybe then I’ll believe.

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        • j.a.m.
          j.a.m. on 10th February 2018 at 11:08 am

          I daresay he could, seeing as he created it. (And he’s not “my” God; he’s yours too.)

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          • Heather Hastie
            Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 11:43 am

            Most of us think your God doesn’t exist, and no one has ever proved that He, or any other god, does exist. Even if he did, He still wouldn’t be our god unless we decided that way. It is not up to you or anyone else to force their god on someone.

            Even the Qur’an says there is no compulsion in religion, though many followers of Muhammad act rather differently.

          • j.a.m.
            j.a.m. on 10th February 2018 at 12:01 pm

            Of course everyone has complete freedom to avoid God. Whether or not one chooses to acknowledge him, however, he is not “a god”, much less “my” God. You must be thinking of something else.

            It’s a mystery why anyone would believe it’s better to avoid God, but no question, it’s your prerogative.

          • Mark R.
            Mark R. on 10th February 2018 at 4:18 pm

            The reason humans don’t believe in god is Reason. You say “acknowledge”, I don’t. There is no acknowledgment in the nebulous. Why so wishy-washy? You are wrong and forever have been. Tough corner to be in. Evolve!

          • Mark R.
            Mark R. on 10th February 2018 at 4:23 pm

            so…dumb…really…
            Heather, why do you let this fool denigrate your site with this horror. Please make him stop. You’re the only one who has the power…over god…god can’t stop you from allowing j.a.m. to exist. Perhaps prove god wrong. The guy does nothing for you or your site…makes it shitty and I’m getting bored of his crap. I’m sure others are too. Time to trim the verge. j.a.m. and his idiocy has no place here. I don’t follow sites with trolls…I’m not far from leaving yours. Just sayin’.

  6. nicky
    nicky on 9th February 2018 at 4:40 am

    That woebegone cat must have been ‘enhanced’. Can’t be real.

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  7. nicky
    nicky on 9th February 2018 at 5:32 am

    That 1941 (!) Dr Seuss cartoon is brilliant. ‘C’est la même chose’ in many ways indeed.
    The ‘Dow Joans’ fell by 1500 points on Monday. Mr Trump knows what to do, get himself shot into the sun, but of corse he won’t do that , never was a realistic proposition, of course. I hope somebody will ask him. Wonder what he’ll come up with.

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    • Mark R.
      Mark R. on 9th February 2018 at 11:20 am

      And it dropped another 1,000+ today. How many of the dick-head’s tweets have come back to bite him in the ass…such a dope.

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      • Heather Hastie
        Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 12:32 pm

        I notice he’s been very quite about the situation. Normally you can’t shut him up. He’s probably desperately trying to think of a way he can blame Obama and/or Clinton.

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        • Mark R.
          Mark R. on 9th February 2018 at 12:42 pm

          Yeah, Obama set him up with a healthy, growing economy, but he put in a poison pill that would reveal itself a year later. (Insert evil laugh here.) 🙂

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          • Heather Hastie
            Heather Hastie on 9th February 2018 at 1:38 pm

            Ha ha!

            I just noticed my spelling of quiet. But one of the advantages of being the site Administrator is I can fix stuff like that! I will do it later.

    • nicky
      nicky on 9th February 2018 at 4:32 pm

      You mention that tweet was fake. Mr Trump’s tweets are so inane as to make it difficult to distinguish fake from true.
      I must admit I fell hook, line and sinker,!

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    • Mark R.
      Mark R. on 10th February 2018 at 7:56 am

      Yeah, djt is a classic case of “he who cried wolf”.

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      • Heather Hastie
        Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 9:00 am

        Yep. He’s like the Bible. There’s always another tweet/verse that contradicts the latest position.

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  9. Randall Schenck
    Randall Schenck on 10th February 2018 at 2:45 am

    So the language went south when you took off on twitter. Not surprised. Mine went that way many years ago when I spent some time in the military and it took a long time after to get over it. Actually, probably never did get completely over it. It is like smoking, a bad habit and hard to break.

    I thought you would have to get to the resignation in the white house yesterday and the story behind it. This could be an even bigger story than we think as I listen to the people on MSNBC cover this. This clown never had the secret clearances required to continue in the job but there he was. How could this be? Can’t remember who dug it up but apparently the president is the only person who can wave the requirement and allow him to continue in the job without this clearance. Yet, we had the president saying yesterday how shocked he was to hear some of the things on this guy. Now, either Trump the lying creep, is just continuing as usual or maybe he didn’t know?? If he did not, that means John Kelly was allowing this and keeping the details from Trump. This is what the journalist are digging into now. If Kelly is complicit in this, he will soon be gone. And a good goodbye it will be.

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    • nicky
      nicky on 10th February 2018 at 6:23 am

      Only four possibilities:
      1 – Mr Kelly knew and told Mr Trump, who didn’t listen (after all, Mr Kelly is not Fox & Friends), it didn’t register.
      2 – Mr Kelly knew and told Mr Trump, who heard, but couldn’t care less.
      3 – Mr Kelly knew, but didn’t tell Mr Trump.
      4 – Mr Kelly didn’t know.
      Somehow I find scenarios 1 and 2 the more believable ones. What he told in public, vouching for Mr Porter’s good character* etc. is probably not really that important, Mr Hatch is in that boat too. I may not have a high opinion of Mr Kelly, but an idiot he ain’t (well, I guess).
      * [A ‘good character’ is a ‘strech-able’ thing, a security clearance much less so]

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    • Randall Schenck
      Randall Schenck on 10th February 2018 at 8:00 am

      From what I understand of the methods on this by the FBI there is no way that Kelly did not know. But we believe it is true that Trump is the only person who can wave the lack of security clearance. Kelly does not have this authority, only the pres. This Porter has been on the job for 13 months without clearance. It is also likely that many knew of his wife beating past — the FBI has known for many months, so when who was told as the white house comes out, we will know who is toast on this. Even today Trump says – It is a sad thing and too bad for him. He denies it still. Right, and you believe him and to hell with the two women who told their stories to the FBI months ago. People do not lie to the FBI, unless they work for Trump.

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      • nicky
        nicky on 10th February 2018 at 11:59 pm

        There is also Mr Sorensen now who had to resign after accusations of wife battering. Apparently he did not need a security clearance for his Job though.
        Note, he contends that he was the battered one. That is moot question. From what I’ve seen (in my job involving repair of physical damage), it is indeed often -well, regularly, I would not say a majority of cases- the woman initiating the violence, at least here in SA. However, until she attacks her man while he’s asleep, she generally comes second best, because of obvious reasons.

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    • Heather Hastie
      Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 8:53 am

      I spent yesterday afternoon writing about this and am hoping to finish it today, though unfortunately I have quite a bit I have to do in the real world first.

      My assessment of this part of the issue is that Porter told Kelly it was just a misunderstanding, Kelly believed Porter because Porter is (on the surface at least) really good at his job, and Kelly told Trump Porter’s version, and Trump accepted it. Kelly never looked further into it. It seems to be the photo that did it for Kelly – a 14 year history of abuse wasn’t enough, and the president didn’t see the photo until Ivanka marched into his office and showed him. The FBI had the photo all along, so Kelly could have got it from them if he’d followed up. I think Reince Preibus must have known about this too. This appears to be on Kelly, and also a consequence of the White House anti-FBI campaign.

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      • Jenny Haniver
        Jenny Haniver on 10th February 2018 at 9:59 am

        Re this thread on Kelly, begun by Randall Schenck, I wanted to gag when I read what Kelly had to say about Porter: “Rob Porter is a man of true integrity and honor, and I can’t say enough good things about him.” “He is a friend, a confidant and a trusted professional. I am proud to serve alongside him.”

        Given the things that Kelly has said about the “Dreamers” who didn’t sign up for deportation deferment, and several other unfortunate comments about a variety of matters, Kelly is not “a man of true integrity and honor.” I find it quite telling that these generals Trump has brought on his team are thoroughly corrupt, yet they trumpet words like “integrity” and “honor” and all that good stuff, speaking both about themselves and about other scumbags, while they’re engaging in those very acts of corruption, deception, lying, etc., etc. Kelly, Flynn. So much for honor in the upper echelons of the military. Corrupt sons of bitches. I needed an expletive here.

        I’d bet my britches that all of them knew about Porter, whom Trump just praised to the heavens and asked that the nation pity the poor man — all woes he’s going through!!!!! and had nothing whatsoever to say about the women.

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        • Heather Hastie
          Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 11:37 am

          I remember some stuff Kelly has said in the past about women. He has an extremely old-fashioned view of our place in society.

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      • nicky
        nicky on 11th February 2018 at 12:14 am

        I found that photo somehow unconvincing. It must have been taken quite a while (like 2-3 weeks) after the facts, the discoloration is already yellowish and there is no swelling.
        Somewhat off topic: I’m always struck how badly films depict a ‘black eye’, clearly just some make-up. A black eye is swollen, these peri-orbital tissues are very loose and swell very easily, invariably. The only exceptions would be ‘raccoon hematomas’, sometimes with little peri-orbital swelling, indicating a serious facial fracture (the different ‘Lefort fractures’), but not involving direct orbital trauma.

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        • nicky
          nicky on 11th February 2018 at 12:28 am

          Rereading, I think I formulated badly. I found these photos unconvincing, could easily be faked (no, I do not contend they are). My point is that there was a years, nay decade+, long history of abuse, which is very much more convincing than a photograph of a receding haemorrhage around the eye. Maybe Mr Kelly is an ‘idiot’ after all? I mean, a long history of abuse would mean nothing, but a moot photograph would?

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          • Heather Hastie
            Heather Hastie on 11th February 2018 at 6:25 am

            I cover this stuff in my not yet published post. It’s quite an involved explanation.

            (Btw, sorry I forgot to delete your comment yesterday. I’ll do it now.)

        • Heather Hastie
          Heather Hastie on 11th February 2018 at 6:22 am

          Her husband took the photo, and has admitted he took the photo. It was some time later. She forced him to as part of an act of attrition. (They’re fairly devout Mormons.) He says the photo doesn’t display the real situation because because of that.

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    • Heather Hastie
      Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 8:56 am

      No worries. I can’t do it on this device though – it will be a few hours.

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  10. Jenny Haniver
    Jenny Haniver on 10th February 2018 at 8:17 am

    I don’t know what you think of Germaine Greer, but when I think of feminists and salty language, they coalesce in her, and frankly, I like her language because she’s able to mix high and low language in a way that the one accentuates the other. I just heard her rip into M-F transsexuals demands to be defined as female, and her language, high and low, was just great. I’m of the opinion that people should be able to ring the changes on language from one end of the spectrum to the other, as long as they use it well. I’m reading a book called “What the F: What Swearing Reveals About Our Language, Our Brains, and Ourselves” by Benjamin Bergen, a neuroscientist. If one finds it on Amazon, one will find several other books in the same vein. Swearing is healthy for us! Of course, that doesn’t give license for one to go around spewing obscenities willy nilly; but there are neurobiological benefits.

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    • Randall Schenck
      Randall Schenck on 10th February 2018 at 8:48 am

      I generally have no problem with some salty language, I would be a hypocrite if I says I did. However, I think it is over-done at times and sometimes shows my own lack of language skills. Having recently seen a few movies I have to say I was a bit put off by one for that very reason. Three Bill Boards Outside Ebbing, Mo. The first half hour or so was so full of F*** this and F*** that it just kind of hung over the rest of the movie. I could not understand why they did that?

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      • Heather Hastie
        Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 9:06 am

        I think it can be too much as well. If it’s overused, it doesn’t have the same effect. Constant use is just gross imo.

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    • Heather Hastie
      Heather Hastie on 10th February 2018 at 9:03 am

      Sometimes, “Fu€k,” is simply the only word that properly expresses feelings on the situation.

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    • nicky
      nicky on 11th February 2018 at 1:22 am

      Germaine Greer, that sheer endless source of quotes? I can’t find the quote right now, but it was she who contended that those being so indignated and horrified about sex with adolescents, this obsession with youth, had some cravings about it themselves. (Echoed by the Hitch, who contended that the fiercest anti-homosexual crusaders have some gay leanings themselves).
      [Some brilliant Greer quotes, just to justify she is an endless mine:
      – “You’re only young once, but you can be immature forever”
      – “I find that those men who are personally most polite to women, who call them angels and all that, cherish in secret the greatest contempt for them.”
      – “Those miserable women who blame the men who let them down for their misery and isolation enact every day the initial mistake of sacrificing their personal responsibility for themselves.”
      – “If a person loves only one other person, and is indifferent to his fellow men, his love is not love but a symbiotic attachment, or an enlarged egotism.”
      – “Psychoanalysis is the confession without absolution.”
      – “Never advise anyone to go to war or to get married. Write down the advice of him who loves you, though you like it not at present. He that has no children brings them up well.”
      – “Evolution is what it is. The upper classes have always died out; it’s one of the most charming things about them.”
      – “Sexual religion is the opiate of the supermenial.”]

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  11. Jenny Haniver
    Jenny Haniver on 10th February 2018 at 8:25 am

    And poor Nigel is dead.

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    • Jenny Haniver
      Jenny Haniver on 10th February 2018 at 1:21 pm

      Another off-topic comment, but I don’t know when you’ll have another corgi post for your corgi lover and may forget about it in the meantime, so post now — I just came across this: https://www.mnn.com/family/pets/videos/pony-corgi-nighttime-ride — a corgi riding a pony. Now that’s a dog that knows how to have fun.

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